Ludlow Valve Mfg. Co. - Troy, NY List 75s - Part 1 (no logo on the barrel) |
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This model is a mystery to FH.O. It's appearance, especially the bonnet style,
suggests the early version of the List 75 model.
However it differs from the List 75 in the following ways:
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1273 Nozzles: 2x 2½" Size: ~5¾" barrel I.D. (back view 1273b) Location: NW Illinois Photo: © 2001, J. Anderson |
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This small hydrant bears no resemblance to the common List 75; but is listed as a 2" No. 75 Hydrant in a 1940 Ludlow catalog. |
0466 Nozzles: 1x ~1½" Size: 2" V.O. Dated: 1948 Location: Kansas City, KS Photo: © Trina Frederick |
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This hydrant configuration was offered in 3" V.O. with a single 2½" nozzle and also in a 4" V.O. with either one or two 2½" nozzles. Company literature from 1921 refers to this as a List 76 model with Water Crane Attachment; yet a 1940 catalog refers to this same drawing as a List 75. |
1850 Nozzles: 2x 2½" Size: 4" V.O. Source: 1921 & 1940 catalogs |
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The main valve of a List 75 is of a slide
gate design. This highly successful model enjoyed a production run of
approximately 70 years! There is a bewildering variety of sizes, nozzle configurations, and barrel logos of the List 75 model. What follows is our attempt to sort this out in an understandable fashion. |
Barrel I.D. | Valve Opening | Barrel O.D.** | Bonnet O.D. |
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3" |
2" |
4 1/2" |
5" |
4 5/8" |
3" |
6 1/8" |
7 1/2" |
5 3/4" |
4" |
7" |
8 1/4" |
6 1/4" |
4 1/2" |
7 3/4" |
9 1/4" |
7" |
5" |
8 1/8" |
10 1/2" |
8" |
6" |
9 7/8" |
11 1/4" |
10" |
8" |
* 11 7/8" |
* 13 1/4" |
* estimated sizes |
** measured just below ground line O.D. rib |
(anyone who can provide actuals to replace the estimated sizes please contact john@firehydrant.org) |
Bonnets can also be found with no patent date present ... it is assumed that these are later production than those with patents. However, since the bonnets are interchangeable for the 70+ years of production the bonnets are not a safe way to determine vintage of the barrel they are bolted to. Many have been switched/replaced during rebuild of these long lived hydrants. |
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0717 Nozzles: 1x 2½" Size: 4 5/8" barrel ID Barrel Pat. Date: ? Location: Massachusetts Photo: © 2001, J. Kaminski |
1562 Nozzles: 2x 2½" Size: 4 5/8" barrel ID Note: unusual ropelike O.D. rib! (another view) Photo: © 2001, B. Thompsen |
1736 Nozzles: 1x 2½" Size: 5¾" barrel I.D. Barrel Pat. Date: No Location: Ed M. collection Photo: © 2002, E. Masminster |
0882 Nozzles: 2x 2½" Size: 5¾" barrel I.D. Barrel Pat. Date: No Location: Jeff K. collection Photo: © 2001, J. Kaminski |
0898 Nozzles: 1x 2½", 1x 4" Size: 5¾" barrel I.D. Barrel Pat. Date: No Location: Dubuque, IA Photo: © 2001, J. Anderson |
1058 Nozzles: 1x 2½", 1x 4½" Size: 5¾" barrel I.D. Barrel Pat. Date: ? Location: New York state Photo: © 2001, J. Kaminski |
0889 Nozzles: 3x 2½" Size: 5¾" barrel I.D. Barrel Pat. Date: No Location: Jeff K. collection Photo: © 2001, J. Kaminski |
0893 Nozzles: 2x 2½", 1x 4" Size: 5¾" barrel I.D. Barrel Pat. Date: No Location: Jeff K. collection Photo: © 2001, J. Kaminski |
0715 Nozzles: 2x 2½", 1x 5" Size: 5¾" barrel I.D. Barrel Pat. Date: ? Location: Massachusetts Photo: © 1997, J. Kaminski |
0890 Nozzles: 2x 2½" Size: 6¼" barrel I.D. Barrel Pat. Date: Yes Location: Jeff K. collection Photo: © 2001, J. Kaminski |
2057 Nozzles: 2x 2½" Size: 6¼" barrel I.D. Barrel Pat. Date: ? Location: Jeff K. collection Photo: © 2003, J. Kaminski |
0113 Nozzles: 1x 2½", 1x 4½" Size: 6¼" barrel I.D. Barrel Pat. Date: ? Location: New York state Photo: © 2001, J. Kaminski |
1888 Nozzles: 3x 2½" Size: 6¼" barrel I.D. Barrel Pat. Date: ? Location: Massachusetts Photo: © 2003, J. Kaminski |
1567 Nozzles: 2x 2½", 1x 5 Size: 6¼" barrel I.D. Barrel Pat. Date: ? Location: Westminster, Co. Photo: © 2001, D. Tomecek |
1261 Nozzles: 2x 2½", 1x 4½" Size: 6¼" barrel I.D. Barrel Pat. Date: ? Location: New York state Photo: © 2001, J. Kaminski |
2092 Nozzles: 2x 2½" @90° Size: 7" barrel I.D. Barrel Pat. Date: ? Location: Jeff K. collection Photo: © 2003, J. Kaminski |
0710 Nozzles: 2x 2½" @105° Size: 7" barrel I.D. Barrel Pat. Date: Yes Location: Massachusetts Photo: © 2001, J. Kaminski |
0112 Nozzles: 2x ~4" Size: 7" barrel I.D. Barrel Pat. Date: ? Location: Windsor, Ontario Photo: © 1999, E. Kennedy |
0709 Nozzles: 3x 2½" Size: 7" barrel I.D. Barrel Pat. Date: Yes Location: Massachusetts Photo: © 2001, J. Kaminski |
0892 Nozzles: 3x 2½" Size: 7" barrel I.D. Barrel Pat. Date: Yes Location: Jeff K. collection Photo: © 2001, J. Kaminski |
0107 Nozzles: 2x 2½", 1x 3" Size: 7" barrel I.D. Barrel Pat. Date: Yes Location: Eddie W. collection Photo: © 1999, E. Walden |
0891 Nozzles: 2x 2½", 1x 4" Size: 7" barrel I.D. Barrel Pat. Date: Yes Location: Jeff K. collection Photo: © 2001, J. Kaminski |
1029 Nozzles: 2x 2½", 1x 5" Size: 7" barrel I.D. Barrel Pat. Date: ? Location: Massachusetts Photo: © 2001, J. Kaminski |
1549 Nozzles: 4x 2½" Size: 7" barrel I.D. Barrel Pat. Date: Yes Location: Massachusetts Photo: © 2002, J. Kaminski |
2478 Nozzles: 2x 2½", 1x4" Size: 8" barrel I.D. Barrel Pat. Date: 1880 Location: New York State Photo: © 2007, J. Kaminski |
2292 Nozzles: 3x 2½" Size: 8" barrel I.D. Barrel Pat. Date: ? Location: Massachusetts Photo: © 2004, J. Kaminski |
1479 Nozzles: 3x 2½" ext. gated Size: 8" barrel I.D. Barrel Pat. Date: ? Location: Massachusetts Photo: © 2001, J. Kaminski |
2069 Nozzles: 2x 2½", 1x 4" Size: 8" barrel I.D. Barrel Pat. Date: ? Location: New York state Photo: © 2003, J. Kaminski |
0951 Nozzles: 4x 2½" Size: 8" barrel I.D. Barrel Pat. Date: ? Location: Massachusetts Photo: © 2001, J. Kaminski |
0708 Nozzles: 3x 2½", 1x 4" Size: 8" barrel I.D. Barrel Pat. Date: ? Location: New York (state) Photo: © 1996, J. Kaminski |
0955 Nozzles: 3x 2½", 1x 5" Size: 8" barrel I.D. Barrel Pat. Date: ? Location: Massachusetts Photo: © 2001, J. Kaminski |
0776 Nozzles: 4x 2½", 1x ~5" Size: 8" barrel I.D. Barrel Pat. Date: ? Location: Dave R. collection Photo: © 2001, D. Raupach |
2464 Nozzles: 3x 2½" Size: 8" barrel I.D. Barrel Pat. Date : ? Location: Private collection Photo courtesy J. Kaminski |
2463 Nozzles: 2x 5" Size: 8" barrel I.D. Barrel Pat. Date: no Note: Draft hydrant Location: Massachusetts Photo courtesy J. Kaminski |
1902 Nozzles: 6x 2½" Size: 10" barrel I.D. Barrel Pat. Date: no Note: see top view Location: New York Photo: © 2002, K. Courtney |
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